Topic: OK! is it gallbladder, or ibs? or both!
posted 09-07-1999 10:12 PM
well today i had a visit with my gastro doc at emory, i also might add that it was the most informative one yet
first of all just how many members have had there gallbladder removed?
and how many members still have thier's?
gallbladder symptoms mimic ibs,so what came first the gallbladder symptoms or the ibs symptoms,for me it was the gallbladder, it was confirmed about 10 years ago that i might have a gallbladder problem, but it finnaly showed up in feb 99, and was removed then.
as most of you know that have had there g/b removed, a certain percent end up with ibs like symptoms or your ibs gets worse, about one third of people that had there g/b removed have this problem,
but my point here is that up and until my g/b started to act up i was doing just fine,
then over the years the decline started, thats when i was first told that i had ibs,when in fact i had a bad g/b
so if a person can go for years living with a diease g/b, remember you do not need stones to have a bad g/b!! you just may be told that you have ibs!
a cat scan, a ultra sound do not show a malfunction of the g/b, but a HIDA/CCK does
this is why lindab, heykate,bonnie,me,dave,and so many more just on this board have had there g/b removed,
simply put it was not working up to parr, after years of suffering
so here is the catch 22
so for those people that have there g/b removed 1/3 may end up with ibs!! go figure!!
its like the chicken or the egg,kinda.
so just how many people really have ibs, or a malfunction g/b.
just look at all the nightmares stories from us members just to get it diagnosis on weather the g/b is any good!
oh there are people with ibs and a good g/b
don't get me wrong, but ask yourself this?
it looks like heykate may have been just one of those who may not had to be on this board after all(sorry heykate) i hope you are doing fine)and other who have left us,we started a de-galled club a while back
just how many are left!
how do you feel now lindab?as for me i feel almost 100%better
i do have some g/b side effects, but no biggie the doctor said that it would really take 6 months to a year to get back to normal,
the bottom line is if you feel that you may fall into this g/b story, please have it check
well i hope this helps someone
Registered: Jan 99
posted 09-08-1999 07:04 PM
Well, Charlie, I suspect you know what my answer is going to be on this subject. I think there are a whole lot of tests (including the CCK-HIDA scan) that should be done before we get stuck with that IBS tag! Once that happens, we could have ovarian cancer (well not you of course) and if we complained about abdominal pain, some yahoo would just write it off as IBS.
I still have some periods of C and pain, but think it is probably the result of the diverticulosis/itis. But, my doc did say today that it could be tied in with a possible stenosis of the lower spine so he ordered another back xray to compare with the one from 2 years ago. All those nerves from the brain travel down that old spinal column to the abdomen and below!
Registered: May 99
posted 09-09-1999 09:32 AM
oh, charlie i wished i belonged to the same club as you and heykate. but i dont. My IBS wasn't diagnosed until after the gb came out, but I know i had it before. Its just that it was blamed on the gb for a long time, then when that was gone it must be ibs.
What you have posted above I ask myself all the time. Is there a connection? Is it coincidence, Is it a chicken or an egg? so confusing! AlL I know is my D has been badm and the gb has been gone for 7 years.
good research, charlie
Veni, vedi, vici!
Registered: Jan 99
posted 09-09-1999 11:14 AM
Gall bladder diease , Isn't that radiating pain through the chest to the back ? Fried and fatty foods cause attacks ? I give up, what other symptoms ? 3 years ago I had a ultrasound on the gall bladder. I also had a endoscope done. No problems were reported to me from either test.
6 months ago another endoscope showed gastritis and an ulcer. Makes me real confident in all those other tests!
Gall bladder has somthing to do with bile, but can it affect the stomach also? Acid or PH? I don't know jack about gall bladders. what do you experts say?