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Pamela Joanne
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posted 08-24-1999 11:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pamela Joanne   Click Here to Email Pamela Joanne     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi All. WOW!! did that survey prove a major point? Our bodily functions are so tied into our emotions. As we go from Dr. to Dr. so incredibly frustrated that someone can't put an end to this when all along it must be ourselves that puts an end to it. How? Changing who we are and how we act and react in life? Why not? If people can laugh their way out of cancer and visualize "pac-men" eating the cancer cells..why can't we control what we think.. just enough to control our situations along with the assistance of medicine!! I am fairly new to this board however, not IBS/D. Had it for almost 30 years and it worsens as I get older. I fit the profile listed as did so many of you. We bury our true feelings and at some point they have to come out.. Guess what? They do .. it the tolit!!! I read all your comments.. we are a smart bunch.. Let's put our heads TOGETHER and be proactive TOGETHER!! That darn chatroom we have is always empty each time I go into it. We should make a commitment to join on it at a certain time. And inbetween research, research, research!! We are pointed in the right direction. It is not a fluke that we all have the same personality traits and it is not a fluke that we go year after year with no "cure". We need to tap into all that is known about mind control and changing how we view the world and ourselves in conjunction with meds available and INPROVE OUR LIVES. We also owe this to our children because as you see, this is passed down from generation to generation. Maybe, not as a genetic thing but as in child abuse, ect. Who is with me??

debidoo
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posted 08-24-1999 11:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for debidoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Pamela,

Emotions definitely play a part in it, but the tough part is how to control those emotions? Whenever you tell yourself you're not going to think about something, you soon find you're thinking of nothing else! If someone tells you whatever you do, do not think of the color YELLOW or of any object that is YELLOW, what else are you going to think of? How many yellow objects just jumped into your mind? So I guess the trick is to tell yourself how calm and relaxed you feel, and imagine yourself in peaceful, relaxing surroundings, until your body finally believes it and responds to what you are telling it.

When I am feeling really stressed, I like to picture myself on a beautiful, tropical island, basking in the warm, white sand, sipping a tropical drink while looking out on the turquoise water and the palm trees swaying ever so slightly in the breeze, and feeling the soft caress of the cool morning breeze on my skin. I can hear the sounds of the waves gently lapping at the shoreline, as I breathe in the scent the sea. I involve all of my senses in this virtual vacation, until I really start to feel that I am there, and I can feel myself relax. It works much better if I'm home alone, but sometimes I also do this in my office at work at breaktime. It does seem to help.

Does anybody else do this? Or does anyone else have a different method of getting into a relaxed state?

Debbie

cyn
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posted 08-24-1999 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cyn   Click Here to Email cyn     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
My psychologist recommends this same excersize. Find a happy place. The trouble I have is getting myself out of my anxiety spin before it escalates to a panic attack. Before I know it I've got stomach cramps, unbearable gas, nausea and the incredible urge to defecate. I usually end up having diarrhea if not a bowel movement. There are certain instances where this is a given as well. Getting into a car for a long trip terrifies me. Sometimes however it's triggered by just a 10 minute drive.

HELP!

hmmmmmmmm
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posted 08-25-1999 12:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmmmmmmmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Gee you sound just like my therapist and I spent six years with her and duh here I am with IBS still.

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Nicol
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posted 08-25-1999 12:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicol   Click Here to Email Nicol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Well if my emotions were tied to my IBS then I wouldn't have IBS at all lol! I would definately be the picture of health. I am a really relaxed person and I don't sweat the small stuff. Unfortunately for me this is not an answer. I really wish it was because then I could actively DO something. I know that there are others like me and would like to know just how many there are. I think I will start a new thread on this. Ok so now I am rambling on. I really hope that all of you who will benefit from this will take action like Pamela Joanne suggests. I KNOW you can beat this.

hmmmmmmmm
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posted 08-25-1999 07:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for hmmmmmmmm     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sorry it has been bothering me all night that I just gave you a fresh answer, but it was after midnight and I had just got home from work and I have been having raging IBS since last Wed, no excuse. You are probably right about us but I am sure by the time our stress has turned to IBS it is pretty much seriously ingrained..There is a lot to think about from your post Pamela..I used to be an optomist don't know when it changed really..

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Fern
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posted 08-25-1999 08:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fern   Click Here to Email Fern     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Don't feel bad, Hmmmmm, You probably stopped being an optimist when Diarrhea, gas, cramps and fatigue began to dictate your life! (ha ha!) I wonder how any of us keep our sense of humor. But we gotta.
Fern
PS--I also do the creative visualization mentioned above, funnily enough, with the same ocean/warm breeze/palm tree scene! It helps, but doesn't stop the D or intense anxiety. I did find that cognitive (behavioural) therapy finally let me have a long-lasting, very tangible effect of feeling urgency in public or tense situations!! It worked so well that I want to tell everyone about it--please email me if you would like some info.

moldie
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posted 08-25-1999 11:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for moldie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Ahhhh debidoo, you and me too. Your visualization goes perfectly with mine. Don't forget the lush, colorful tropical vegetation and waterfalls into clear warm pools to play in.

While you're correct PJ about stress and emotions having a negative effect on our IBS; I believe it is not always the total picture. God gave us a mind. We can tell if these events happen to us when we are always stressed or not. Mine often happen to me when I am not under any stress and in fact relaxed. At times of stress, I have noticed no bowel complaints as well. If there is an underlying physical problem, stress may make it worse, but will not often cause the situation. I know lots of people with these similar traits who do not have IBS. I am almost convinced that my difficulties with IBS have a med-based origin. Therefore, this environmental influence is a physical one rather than an emotional one. That is not to say that when I have an argument with someone, my stomach doesn't feel a knot in it. I've noticed, however, it has nothing to do with the stooling effect. On the other hand, I have connected it with foods I eat and have been able to control it that way. Yes, many of us may make ourselves feel better through visualization etc., but if you don't get rid of the root cause, it will not cure us. If your root cause is indeed a mental cause, then you may be able to rid yourself of the symptoms by working through all that emotional baggage you may have. If, on the other hand it is biological/physical in nature, then it has to be looked at from that angle. Some have been better after gallbladder operations, some have been worse. For some it is a matter of mis-diagnosis. I liked the educating/research part of your writing. We do have to be proactive, especially with this "move them in and move them out fast" healthcare system. Doctors have little time to research your symptoms today with all the paperwork they have to do to cover there backsides.

Chat is on Mon. eves. 8pm Eastern, 9pm Central, 10pm Rocky Mt., and 11pm Pacific (correct me if I am wrong anyone).

Chow

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Alley
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posted 08-25-1999 06:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Alley     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I'd like to participate in an online discussion. I just found this webpage today. I haven't seen the results of the survey you're referring to, but, there's no doubt in my mind that our disorder is linked to our emotions.

Monday's at 8PM EST?

debidoo
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posted 08-25-1999 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for debidoo     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Fern and all,

Most of my problems are controlled or minimized by being careful with my diet, but different triggers call for different strategies. The visualization techniques don't always work for me either, just when I first start to go into that emotional spin from stress, and only if I can catch it right when I feel it starting. Several of you have mentioned that this technique was suggested by a psychologist - but I did this quite naturally from childhood. As a matter of fact, it was more natural for me to wander off inside my mind, somewhere away from the unpleasantness of school, parental discipline or whatever I found unendurable at the moment, than to focus on whatever was happening in front of me. It got me into a lot of trouble sometimes, but it got me through some rough times, too. If I didn't have my mind to turn to, it probably would have been drugs.

Debbie

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