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biddy
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posted 02-22-1999 04:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biddy   Click Here to Email biddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

After a severe bout of constipation, I passed a relatively hard, long stool. The out side of the stool was layered with blood, red blood. There was not any blood mixed with the water. The toilet paper was however showing lots of blood. If it were "in" the stools, wouldn't they be black? Could this just be from hemmeroids? An external factor? Or will this require another colonoscopy?

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Please, no more tests.

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Belle
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posted 02-22-1999 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Belle     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Could there be tiny thin blood vessles getting broken up in there ? That's something to ask a Gastro specialist I believe.

biddy
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posted 02-22-1999 04:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biddy   Click Here to Email biddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
I hope hat is all that it is. I am going back to my GI on March 8, I will be sure to ask him. I am just afraid of becoming yet again the human guinea pig.

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posted 02-22-1999 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GassMan500     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Dear Biddy,

I have had bloody stools just like you described for over a year. After a colonscopy, a sigmoidoscopy, etc. my GIs came to the conclusion that I have fissures that bleed when there is strain on my rectum from a hard stool or lots of diarrhea. I definitely hope that they won't want to scope you any more. You've been through too much.
Lindsey

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posted 02-22-1999 10:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for musem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Bloody stools probably don't come from too far inside. It's very likely that they come from the rectal cavity, itself. If the problem was inside very far, the blood would darken, and probably wouldn't stain your TP. So, this probably either means a bleeding hemorrhoid or a bleeding fissure. In fact, I'm going to see the surgeon on Wednesday; not to schedule surgery, but for an evaluation. I've been through 3 surgeries already in the past 10 years, and really don't want to do this again.

bob

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posted 02-22-1999 10:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belfor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
If I had this condition--I would try to soften my stools(ask MD or Pharmacist for a stool softener)

Then I would use a sitz bath to help relax my bowels.

Then I would start on a good quality Vit. A about l0,00O I.U daily for two weeks taken with a teaspoon of safflower or olive oil and a small meal. Then just every other day for 2 months and after 2 months just use the teaspoon of olive oil daily.

The other vitamin I would take is a yeast free Vitamin B complex(the smallest dose possible) pill every other day.

I would also eat about 3-5 prunes with lots of de-chlorinated water (I use a filter) make sure you eat dietary fiber you have not exhibited an allergic reaction previously.Are you eating any fruits like apples or pears, peeled and sliced very thin. Chew, slowly trying to get all the juice out before swallowin.

Well try that for a start, that should soften the stool, ease evacuation, heal tissues and relax you (sitz baths and Vit B complex)

Tranquilizers and anti depressants can be constipating. Regards and may you heal quickly, belle

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Nicol
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posted 02-23-1999 01:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicol   Click Here to Email Nicol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Sounds like an anal fissure to me. I get them all the time. Go to the Doctor to be sure. They will diagnose you with a "finger" exam. It can be a little painful but it is mostly uncomfortable. The doctor will prescribe proctosedyl ointment with a nice long insertable applicator. It usually heals quickly, but could worsen if you get constipated. I know it sounds impossible or weird, but try to "ease" out the BMs as slowly and gently as possible to aid in healing. Hope this helps and sorry if I got a little to graphic, I just did not know how else to say it.

biddy
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posted 02-24-1999 09:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for biddy   Click Here to Email biddy     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Thanks for the feedback. It hasn't happened again, but then I haven't had another bm. Hopefully this was just an isolated incident. Do these fissures need to be attended to? Or do they just go away? Or do you just deal with them?

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posted 02-24-1999 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for belfor     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
biddy: fissures are open sores/wounds and should be taken care of, preferably check with a doctor. Will you think about the vitamin A and olive or safflower oil. Lol belle, :

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posted 02-25-1999 12:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for musem     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Saw the doc today, and after he took a look with his little scope, he said I just had a superficial fissure, and he couldn't figure out why it was bleeding off and on as bad as I was complaining about. He told me to stop the Anusol HC, and try some samples of Analpram HC. We'll se

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posted 02-25-1999 02:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nicol   Click Here to Email Nicol     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Calmoseptine ointment works good on those superficial fissures. You can get a free sample at www.calmoseptineointment.com

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posted 02-25-1999 04:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chloe   Click Here to Email Chloe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Biddy, it sounds like you were straining to pass that stool and thus have hemmrhoids! I, too, have had this problem and there is lots of bright red blood. It scared me to death! I stood up and it was dripping all over the place. I thought I was bleeding to death! My doctor did a sigmoidoscopy and the bleeding was from the hemorrhoids as suspected. I have a prescription ointment
for them. I now use Citricul and stool softners on a regular basis plus drink LOTS and LOTS of water daily! Bright red blood is almost always hemorrhoids, darker blood is where it's further inside your body.
TAKE CARE! You'll be fine! Chloe

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