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Karl
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posted 11-23-1998 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
GI Doc wants me to take MOM everyday for "C" IBS and symptoms. Contacted Bayer, manufacturer of MOM, and their standard reply was "as long as your doc says so."

I've found some sites that talk about eventual dependence, side effects, and mag. toxicity at higher dosing levels.

Doc calls MOM a "benign substance." Any one out there have any further information.

A Searching Karl

K
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posted 11-23-1998 11:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for K   Click Here to Email K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Hi Karl. I am a nursing student, and have many books on different medications. I looked up MOM, and this is what I found.
-Advise patient that laxatives should be used only for short-term therapy. Long-term therapy may cause electrolyte imbalance and dependence. Signs of toxicity are mucsle cramps or pain, weakness, and dizziness.
I would maybe just take the MOM if I really needed it, rather than every day. The book also says that having a BM only every 3 days is considered normal. If you haven't already, I would start by adding a fiber supplement (Citrucel, Metamucil) to your diet, and drink at least 8 glasses of water a day. If you have already tried these methods, and they were unsuccessful, I guess I would just follow your doctor's advice, but maybe only take the MOM every other day or so, if you need to. Hope this helps you at least a little!! K

Karl
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posted 11-24-1998 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K,
Thanx for looking into this for me.
Over the last six months and little improvement, I find myself second guessing my doctors...they seem to treat IBS as an
annoyance and you're taking their valuable time. The bottom line - feel like a widget being processed through the medical assembly line. Had to vent.

Thanx Again,

Good Luck in Your Nursing
Studies

Karl

Susan K
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posted 11-24-1998 06:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Susan K   Click Here to Email Susan K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Karl, please tell me what kind of symptoms you have!! Like you, I've had some ambivalence about the way my Dr. has dealt with me. The specialist was nice enough, but I felt he labeled me with IBS for lack of anything conclusive. You know, "here, take this and come back in 4 months"; crap, I can't see suffering for 4 more months cause some guy doesn't take me seriously! Anyway, I take Propulsid which seems to help some with the constipation. When it doesn't work, I too take MOM. I just take 1 tablespoon when I bloat and the Propulsid doesn't work. Your body can become dependant on any laxative or enema, so if avoidable, you wouldn't want to take it every day. You won't die from it if you do, but you don't want to take anymore than you need. The most important question is: does it make you feel better? Oh, about the dose, if you take the full recommended 2 tablespoons, you may think you're dying as it can cramp you up. My dose works but doesn't cramp me! So, have you a doodoo pop and feel better!

Karl
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posted 11-24-1998 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Karl     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Susan K,

Symptoms are/have been: cycles of "C"
IBS, isolated bleeds, excessive mucous,
gas pressure build-up at rectum, bloating,
moderate to severe cramping, weight loss,
frequent urination, and anxiety/depression.

I tried stopping MOM and after about a day, most symptoms got progressively worse. So, I'm back on MOM and like you take about a tablespoon even though it makes me urinate more often and is one more drug to take.

I know there are some who suggest: "control what you can and let go of the rest." Accept your situation I suppose.

I've had IBS/constipation cycles/or whatever the medical community says for about six months. Came out of the blue with an anxiety attack along with frequent urination.

I try and stay after my docs to uncover everything and make sure they rule out other concerns that have the same symptoms. It's my life not theirs!!!

Take Care and I hope you get better,

Karl

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posted 11-24-1998 07:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hey karl
try the mom chewable mom! mom is also used as a antacid, i take one chewable a day, some times two, its works great! no where as strong to, get the mint tasting ones ok, let me know how it works out for you.

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charlie

Phil Beckman
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posted 11-24-1998 09:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Phil Beckman   Click Here to Email Phil Beckman     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
karl,
I've had IBS for 25 years or more and eventually you learn to control it naturally. For me eating a diet that helps me stay regular daily keeps me from geting caught in the 'D' 'C' 'D' roller coaster.

I eat both insoluble and soluble fiber in my diet for balance. Insoluble fiber such as brans from grains helps encourage bowel movement like a laxative. Soluble fiber provides bulk to stool formation which slows the movement through the gut and eases cramping.

Besides this I eat a normal diet excluding any 'trigger' foods that might aggravate my IBS.

Also I have learned to 'potty train' myself by using the restroom prior to events that might be a problem or a nuisance to finding a restroom later.

Other than that I pursue a normal existance with my IBS but in case it flares up I have a prescription for bentyl (generic: dicyclomine) which eliminates diarhea and cramping by reducing intestinal motility for about 4-6 hours. It is a fairly harmless drug as far as I can tell.

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posted 11-25-1998 03:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TBrnot   Click Here to Email TBrnot     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
K--in your reading, does it say I will turn to stone or chalk if I keep taking 2200mg+ of calcium daily for the rest of my life?

K
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posted 11-25-1998 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for K   Click Here to Email K     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
TBrnot,
Wow, that's a lot of calcium. The RDA is only around 1000 mg per day. You won't turn to stone or anything, but that much calcium could lead to problems. You're increasing your risk of developing kidney stones. Make sure you are drinking LOTS of water to help prevent this. You might want to see a doctor who could test the level of calcium in your body. If it's too high, it could lead to a number of problems. If it's normal, then I don't think you should worry. You might want to ask your doctor if the dosage you are taking is safe, he probably knows a little more about it than I do! K

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posted 11-25-1998 11:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Chloe   Click Here to Email Chloe     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Docj (our gastroenterologist on the board) once commented on Milk of Magnesia for me as I was taking it alot. He said it was not as bad as taking, say, Exlax. There are various degrees of laxatives. I can't recall the term he label M.O.M. but it was considered the "safer" laxative. I chew the mint flavored MOM every other day or so (2-3)
a day and it helps. If not, I just don't go at all and am in terrible pain. I also take Citricul daily and drink all that water plus use a Glycerin suppository daily as directed by my doctor.

I share the anxiety of many of you - the doctor gives you a few minutes of his time and then you're on your own for months on end with a million questions and worries and when you call, they either don't call back or scheduled an appt. for you in the next century. I called my doctor with problems in early November and see him Dec. 7th. That's the earliest he could see me. Meanwhile I just struggle along with all my medications, etc., no answers and not much better. It's so annoying. I "vent" to my friends here as you all understand and are supportive. Thanks! Chloe

martierae
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posted 11-27-1998 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for martierae   Click Here to Email martierae     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
HELLO EVERYONE!
I've had IBS-D for about ten years. About six months an employee asked if I had ever tried "Equalactrin"-(over the
counter). So far it has been a life saver. It has given me the opportunity to take my dog for a walk without worrying about a bathroom.
Has anyone else tried this? I understand it to be for short-term use?

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