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charlie
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posted 09-04-1998 08:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote

hi doc j
try this one on for size!
about the time i started with my gastro problems, i started with a lot of saliva in my mouth, now my right submandibular gland gets puffed up everytime i eat something
big time! also it may last two days that way, i was told that it is connected to my gastro tract and it may be causing me gastro problems
i have to go for a ct scan next week the doc said i may have something stuck in it,i never realize that all the while i had excess saliva 18 months now,that this had anything to do with my gastro tract.
my question is have you had any experience with this in your pratice
what does saliva do anyway to your gastro tract?
the ent doc said he may have to remove it, DO I NEED IT? this is all new to me now i just found out a few weeks ago having a routine check up
when my doc ask me how long has this been going on, and i told him, i did not think it was a big deal,what is your opinion doc on this could it be realated to ibs? i wonder how many members on this board have excess saliva running around in thier mouth
and not know it?
thanks doc j
charlie croce

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posted 09-05-1998 05:45 PM           Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
Charlie-

Do you have acid reflux or heartburn? GERD is probably the mosy common condition associated with excessive salivation. Excessive salivation is not related to IBS. It's much more common for IBS-ers to complain of dry mouth from the anticholinergic side effects of many of the drugs commonly used to manage IBS.

This painful salivary gland that you have may be infected or the duct draining it might be obstructed. Your ENT guy knows way more about this then I do. As this gland is one of several salivary glands which you're in possession of, removing it is not likely to lead to a deficiency of saliva.

Saliva does a few things: it lubricates food and the oral cavity; it has some antibacterial properties, it aids in the digestion of starches to a limited degree and it helps neutralize refluxed gastric acid.

Hope it helps.

Brian
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posted 09-06-1998 11:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brian   Click Here to Email Brian     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
From experience, I can say that that excess saliva triggers an unwanted swallowing response. If I do that enough times in an hour, I soon end up with a gut full of air, and painful bloating. Although not a formal symptom or cause of IBS, aerophagia sure doesn't help either.

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posted 09-06-1998 01:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
i have been checking out the web sites on this subject, it looks like that thesaliar gands are a part of thegastro system, further more when this sumadibular gland acts up, it can cause sinus, arthitic type pain in joints, ear problems, and a hole slew of other things,acid reflux,heartburn, now so far i have a stone stuck in my canal, but there are times that i have dry mouth,wich is also one of the things it can cause,some people dont even know they have a problem with this gland until it gets to the stage when everytime you eat something it swells up big time, it also can get a infection in it as to where you need antibiotics,this little bugger is raising hell with me and my stomach i can tell you that much!!! i have to get a cat scan on tuesday to have a look at it.
hey brian do you also have a problem with this gland? right now i have so much saliva in my mouth i am drooling
to doc j, i have no heartburn, BUT i have a real acid type feeling in my stomach almost all the time,when i wake up it seems to be the worse,i would give it a 10, than a few hours later it slows down to about a 5, and there are very few days nothing!!!
well catch ya later
thanks brian and doc j
charlie
ps doc j that, konsyl is great!!!! stuff!!

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Charlie,

No, I don't have the problems that you describe with the gland (Didn't even know I had one!). Get it checked out, and be sure to let us know what turns up! Best of luck.

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Hey Charlie! After reading all of this I can tell you that the sensations that you are describing of the stomach burning and being especially bad when you wake up are symptoms that I have with GERD (gastro esophogeal reflux disease) Some mornings I wake up feeling as if I have been out drinking all night and that hasn't happened since college (which was um, well, uh... more than a year LOL) I have a stomach ache, nausea, headache, sore throat and I just don't want to get out of bed! Now it may be that you have several thing going on, I have D/C type IBS, gall stones and GERD and I haven't a clue which symptoms are from what stupid malady half of the time. You may have GERD and the salivary gland thingy too! I hope that you feel better soon! From Arry

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posted 09-06-1998 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
well put murph
you are right it feels as i have a hang over almost everyday! but no heartburn or burping, my chest is fine! i just have a acid/burning feeling in my tummy, but when my gland swells up it also has the same feeling but it is than in my mouth, sometimes my face is soooo sore right side an up to my lower part of my ear
at one time my right ear was so sore that you could not even touch it, big time pain BIG TIME, this happens when i have a bad gland day, i had to put heat on it to try to help!as far as the acid goes if i drink a coke it helps it i dont know why ?
thanks for the reply
charlie

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To the Konsyl King-

The sialadenitis is its own problem and your ENT is best suited to address. If you have excessive salivation and burning upper abdominal pain, you MIGHT have GERD. Talk with your doc about it.

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posted 09-07-1998 04:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charlie   Click Here to Email charlie     Edit/Delete Message   Reply w/Quote
hi doc!
konsyl king here (:

the feeling i have is like i have a hang over, no heartburn, no burning in chest, just a acid feeling in my tummy,when my gland swells up its starts to pump out tons of saliva,than i start to get a acid feeling as my body is full of acid,sometime it gets so bad the right side of my face gets numb! of course a lot of people say i am numb ha ha, i can feel the stone in it its just under my tounge! in the right canal, i took my finger and pushed on it i almost hit the roof! i hope when they either remove the stone or gland the acid may get a little better or go away, someone told me that my facial nerve runs right through that gland and they must be very careful not to damage it or i will have a bad face day!!! oh well so much for that
thank you for the reply i will keep you posted on the gland thing

thanks
charlie konsyl
ps did you say i might have GERD or i am a NERD!!!! HA HA HA SEE YA DOC

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